Neither RHYME nor reason

Meaning & Analysis

The phrase denotes something that is completely devoid of sense, logic, or any discernible structure. It lacks both a pleasing, ordered form (rhyme) and a rational basis (reason).

Insights

Absence of Order

The proverb metaphorically describes a state of complete chaos or irrationality. It suggests a situation so disorganized and nonsensical that it fails to meet any standard of order, whether artistic or logical.

Critique of Irrationality

It serves as a powerful critique of any argument, explanation, or action that is fundamentally flawed. To have 'neither rhyme nor reason' is to be indefensible from both an emotional/intuitive perspective and a logical one.

Failure of Communication

The phrase can symbolize a breakdown in communication or understanding. When discourse lacks both structure and sense, it becomes meaningless noise, failing to convey any coherent message.

Literary and Cultural Heritage

The pairing of 'rhyme' (poetic structure) and 'reason' (logic) reflects a deep-seated cultural value, prominent since the Elizabethan era, that considers eloquence and rationality as essential pillars of coherent thought. The proverb's use by authors like Skelton and Shakespeare underscores its role in critiquing absurdity and disorder.

Psychology of Order

This proverb speaks to the fundamental human need to find both pattern (rhyme) and logic (reason) in the world. An event or statement that lacks both is profoundly unsettling, as it defies our cognitive desire for order and meaning, marking it as utterly chaotic or arbitrary.

Comprehensive Condemnation

The phrase has endured as a powerful idiom for total condemnation. By negating both the aesthetic/intuitive (rhyme) and the analytical/intellectual (reason), it leaves no room for merit, making it a comprehensive dismissal of an idea, action, or explanation.

Rhetorical Devices

Alliteration

The repetition of the 'r' sound in 'rhyme' and 'reason' creates a memorable and satisfying phonetic rhythm, ironically making a phrase about disorder feel very ordered.

Parallelism

The 'Neither X nor Y' construction creates a balanced and emphatic parallel structure, powerfully negating both elements at once for a totalizing effect.

Conceptual Juxtaposition

The proverb juxtaposes an artistic concept ('rhyme') with a logical one ('reason'). This pairing covers the spectrum of human sense-making, implying that the subject at hand fails on every possible level of evaluation.

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Transcription

Quotations

For reson can I non fynde Nor good ryme in yower mater.

a.1529, SKELTON, Agst. Garnesche, l. 104: Wks., I 123

In loue is neyther meane nor mesure, or neyther ryme nor reason.

1540, PALSGRAVE, Acolastus, III iv, p. 116

Ye shall heare him chafe beyonde all reason or rime.

1568, Jacob and Esau, II iii, s. C4

I would it were in rime. —In rime Wit, why so? —Because it wantes reason.

1590, R. WILSON, Three Lords and Three Ladies Lond., s. B2v

He can sing rime with reason. And rime without reason, And without reason or rime.

1593, PEELE, Edw. I, ii, s. C1

(It hath neither).

1616, WITHALS, p. 572

(There is here neither).

1623, WOD., p. 497

You haue reason good mine host. —Sir I haue rime too.

1631, JONSON, New Inn, I i 12
1639, CL., s.v. Contemptus, p. 71

Neither rhythm nor reason.

1670, RAY, p. 218

Heer's nor rhythm, nor reason.

1678, RAY, p. 349
1721, KEL., p. 267

Shakespeare Citations

Was there ever any man thus beaten out of season, When in the why and the wherefore is neither rhyme nor reason?

Err, II.ii

Neither rhyme nor reason can express how much.

AYL, III.ii

These fellows of infinite tongue that can rhyme themselves into ladies' favours, they do always reason themselves out again.

H5, V.ii

In despite of the teeth of all rhyme and reason.

Wiv, V.v

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