Meaning & Analysis
The matter under discussion has no bearing on the present point; its location—in relevance terms—is in no useful place.
Insights
Irrelevance
Declares a topic immaterial to the argument or decision at hand. By denying it a ‘place’ in discourse, the speaker excludes it from the frame of relevance.
Boundary-setting
Functions as a conversational gate: the speaker polices what counts as admissible evidence or themes, keeping the discussion constrained and goal-directed.
Emotional Detachment
Signals disengagement from provocations or side issues, a way to refuse the emotional bait of tangents and keep poise.
Epistemic Caution
Admits uncertainty or indifference about particulars: when facts are unsettled or symmetric, their exact ‘place’ doesn’t alter the conclusion.
Power in Framing
By labeling something ‘neither here nor there,’ a speaker exerts soft power—framing the arena so that rival claims lose footing.
Deictic Roots
‘Here’ and ‘there’ are deictic anchors tied to speaker and elsewhere; the proverb negates both, metaphorically erasing coordinates to mark discourse-null space.
Stage and Street
From Shakespeare’s dialogue to everyday talk, the phrase serves as a pragmatic aside—a quick valve to vent irrelevancies without derailing rhythm.
Legal–Rhetorical Use
In debate or law, it compresses a relevance objection: material that does not affect burden of proof, remedy, or issue-spotting is dismissed as ‘neither…nor….’
Meristic Logic
By spanning a binary (‘here/there’) and negating both, the line implies exhaustive exclusion—if it’s in neither category, it’s out of play altogether.
Politeness Strategy
Offers a courteous off-ramp: rather than contradicting content head-on, the speaker downgrades its pertinence, saving face while steering course.
Rhetorical Devices
Merism
‘Here’ and ‘there’ name opposite poles to imply the whole field; negating both wipes the field clean of relevance.
Antithesis
Opposed spatial terms dramatize exclusion, sharpening the sense that the matter belongs nowhere useful.
Deixis
Place-words tether meaning to speaker perspective; their joint negation universalizes the claim of irrelevance.
Ellipsis/Idiom
A compact, idiomatic clause that omits explicit reasons—its performative force lies in the act of classification, not argument.
Parallelism
Balanced ‘neither…nor…’ structure gives cadence and memorability, making the dismissal quick and quotable.
Transcription
Quotations
Sir, that is neither here nor there.
As the English say, Its neither here, nor there, insignificant, a chip in pottage.
Well, that's neither here nor there.
Shakespeare Citations
But notwithstanding that, I know Anne's mind. That's neither here nor there.
Doth that bode weeping? -'Tis neither here nor there.
Related Proverbs
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