ALL is lost that is put in a riven dish

Meaning & Analysis

Anything placed into a cracked or broken dish is lost, as the dish cannot hold it—symbolizing the futility of giving to something that cannot retain or make use of what is given.

Insights

Futility of Misdirected Effort

The proverb suggests that efforts, gifts, or kindness directed toward those who cannot appreciate or sustain them are ultimately wasted—like pouring water into a broken vessel.

Unworthiness of the Recipient

Symbolically critiques the recipient's capacity—be it intellectual, emotional, or moral. A 'riven dish' represents someone flawed, incapable of growth or gratitude, rendering acts of support ineffective.

Limits of Charity

This warns that even the most well-intentioned actions may be in vain if directed toward individuals or systems too damaged or ungrateful to benefit from them.

Material and Moral Decay

In early modern literature, the broken dish metaphor extended to themes of moral decay and social dysfunction. A cracked vessel was often used to describe characters beyond reform or salvation.

Unreciprocated Generosity

RAY’s 1670 gloss links the proverb to ingratitude—suggesting that what’s given to an ungrateful person is not only unappreciated but erased. This reflects broader anxieties about wasted goodwill and moral obligation.

Psychological Despair

The image of repeated, fruitless giving speaks to emotional exhaustion. It resonates with those who feel their efforts are perpetually undermined—by others’ incapacity or by systemic dysfunction.

Echoes of Classical Philosophy

Echoes the Danaides myth from Greek mythology, in which condemned souls endlessly fill leaky vessels—a powerful emblem of futility and punishment tied to fruitless labor.

Rhetorical Devices

Metaphor

The 'riven dish' functions as a vivid metaphor for people or systems that cannot hold or benefit from what is offered—conveying failure through a concrete domestic image.

Alliteration

The repetition of the 'r' sound in 'riven dish' enhances the proverb’s rhythm and memorability, underscoring the harshness of the judgment.

Irony

The act of giving—usually noble—is ironically framed as futile or even foolish when directed at the wrong recipient, creating a moral tension.

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Transcription

Quotations

When wee haue done our best, al's but put into a riuen dish, wee are but frumpt at and libell'd vpon.

1611, DEKKER AND MIDDLETON, Roaring Girl, s. IIv

All you doe for him is put into a riven dish.

1639, CL., Inanis opera, p. 154
Ibid., s.v. Ingratitudo, p. 169

*All is lost that is bestowed on an ungrateful person; he remembers no courtesies.

1670, RAY, p. 137

(into).

1672, WALK., 51, p. 47
1681, ROB., p. 1280

Original Scan

ALL is lost that is put in a riven dish - a scanned entry from Tilley's 1950 Dictionary of Proverbs.
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