At LATTER LAMMAS

Meaning & Analysis

At a time that will never come; an imaginary or impossible date.

Insights

Postponed Indefinitely

The phrase serves as a metaphor for perpetual delay or procrastination—something promised or hoped for but never actually fulfilled. It implies false assurances or unrealistic expectations.

Impossibility and Futility

‘Latter Lammas’ symbolizes an event that will never occur. Much like 'when pigs fly', it signals the speaker’s disbelief in the feasibility of a proposed action or promise, casting it as absurd or futile.

Calendar Irony

Lammas Day (August 1) was a real harvest festival, but 'Latter Lammas' is a fabricated date, using the legitimacy of an actual holiday to heighten the irony. This underscores the proverb’s wit and cultural anchoring in agrarian timekeeping.

Cultural Parallel with Classical Antiquity

Ray’s comparison to the Latin 'Ad Graecas calendas' reveals a shared rhetorical device across cultures: invoking fictional calendar dates to express impossibility. Romans said this of Greek months, which lacked 'calends'.

Folk Humor and Skepticism

The proverb reflects a skeptical folk voice wary of false promises—whether from landlords, suitors, or officials. It participates in a long tradition of humorous realism that mocks delays and empty words.

Rhetorical Devices

Irony

The expression hinges on situational irony—pretending to offer a deadline that does not exist, which amplifies the satirical tone.

Allusion

It alludes to a known date (Lammas) to fabricate a non-existent one, drawing on shared cultural calendars to build its meaning.

Idiomatic Hyperbole

It exaggerates the idea of waiting until a date that will never arrive, producing a vivid and memorable idiom for futility.

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Analyzed with gpt-4o on July 10, 2025

Transcription

Quotations

Faith youer Marsship will thrive att the latter Lammas.

1553, Respublica, III v, p. 27

Who late, or neuer woodcocke like at later Lammas thriues.

c.1566, CHURCHYARD, Farewell in Bal. and Broadsides, 30, p. 12
1616, DR., s.v. Impossibility, no. 1095

*Never.

1639, CL., p. 100

This your will At latter lammas wee'l fulfill.

1642, FULLER, Holy State, IV xv, p. 316

At latter Lammas when men shear their Calfs.

1659, HOW., Eng. Prov., p. 17

*Ad Graecas calendas, i.e. never.

1670, RAY, p. 184

At latter Lammas; at Nevermass; when two sundays come together.

1672, WALK., 43, p. 52

Cross References

Original Scan

At LATTER LAMMAS - a scanned entry from Tilley's 1950 Dictionary of Proverbs.
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