What some win (lose) in the HUNDRED they lose (win) in the shire

Meaning & Analysis

Any advantage gained in a small local administrative district (the 'hundred') is negated by a corresponding loss in the larger territory (the 'shire' or county), or vice versa.

Insights

Zero-sum equilibrium

The proverb illustrates a closed system where profit is illusory; a gain in one specific sector inevitably results in a deficit in another, resulting in no net progress.

Micro-gain vs. Macro-loss

It warns against focusing on narrow, tactical victories (the hundred) that compromise broader, strategic stability (the shire), highlighting the danger of compartmentalized thinking.

Inevitable trade-offs

Life operates on a principle of exchange; resources or luck saved in one endeavor will likely be consumed by the demands of another context.

Pyrrhic victory

Winning a small battle only to lose the war; the satisfaction of a minor triumph is swallowed by the failure of the larger enterprise.

Feudal geography

Historically, a 'shire' was a major administrative division (county), while a 'hundred' was a subdivision of the shire (originally an area sustaining one hundred homesteads). The proverb relies on this specific hierarchy of English land governance to juxtapose the local against the regional.

Bacon’s fiscal theory

Francis Bacon (1612) utilized this proverb to argue against excessive taxation. He posited that squeezing the populace for revenue (winning in the 'hundred') impoverishes the broader economy, eventually reducing the King’s total yield (losing in the 'shire'). It is an early formulation of diminishing returns.

Legal jurisdiction

Both 'hundreds' and 'shires' had their own courts. A litigant might win a minor suit in the local Hundred Court but face ruinous costs or reversal when the matter escalated to the Shire Court, reflecting the perils of the legal system.

Cognitive accounting

Psychologically, humans often segregate gains and losses into different mental accounts. This proverb challenges that bias by forcing an integration of the 'whole sum,' reminding the listener that local efficiency does not guarantee global utility.

Modern equivalents

The sentiment survives in idioms like 'What you lose on the swings, you gain on the roundabouts' or 'Penny wise, pound foolish,' though the 'Hundred/Shire' variant specifically emphasizes the structural scale of the trade-off.

Rhetorical Devices

Antithesis

The sharp contrast between 'win' and 'lose' drives the logic of the proverb, emphasizing the opposing forces at play.

Metonymy

'Hundred' and 'Shire' are used not just as geographic terms, but as stand-ins for 'the part' and 'the whole,' or 'the specific' and 'the general.'

Parallelism

The syntactic structure (What X in Y, X in Z) creates a rhythmic balance that mirrors the economic balance being described.

Chiasmus

In several variations (like Bacon's), the structure implies a crossing pattern: Gain (A) in Local (B) leads to Loss (A') in General (B'), reinforcing the inescapability of the outcome.

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Transcription

Quotations

For what so euer thou wynnes in the shyre thou shalt lese it in the hondreth.

1520, WHITTINGTON, Vulgaria, p. 93

What ye wan in thundred, ye lost in the shere.

1546, HEY, II ix, s. K4v

That he wynnes in the hundreth he louseth in the shyre.

c.1594, BACON, no. 676
1611, DAV., Prov., no. 36

Taxes and imposts upon them do seldom good to the king's revenue; for that he wins in the hundred, he leeseth in the shire.

1612, BACON, Essays, p. 145

That he getteth in the hundred, he looseth in the shire.

1616, DR., no. 369

What some men winne in the steere [for shire] they lose in the hundred.

1623, CAM., p. 280

What's won in t'hundred, in the shire is lost.

1629, J. TAYLOR, Wit and Mirth, Wks. F., p. 349

What you win i'th shire you lose i'th hundred.

1639, CL., p. 17
1659, N.R., p. 121

(Hundreds).

1664, COD., p. 225

To recover ones self from any damage one way or another; the English say, What one loses in the Shire, to get in the Hundred.

1666, TOR., Prov. Phr., s.v. Scarpe, p. 183

What is got in the county, is lost in the hundred.

1670, RAY, p. 169

What is got in the whole sum is lost in particular reckonings; or in general, What is got one way, is lost another.

*Note

What he taketh from the poor old Man of Rome in the Hundred, he very honestly pays him back in the Shire.

1677, HUGHES, Man Sin I vii, p. 31

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What some win (lose) in the HUNDRED they lose (win) in the shire - a scanned entry from Tilley's 1950 Dictionary of Proverbs. What some win (lose) in the HUNDRED they lose (win) in the shire - a scanned entry from Tilley's 1950 Dictionary of Proverbs. (continuation)
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