Here I FOUND you and here (As I found you) I leave you

Meaning & Analysis

Literally, this proverb means that someone is left exactly as they were found—unchanged by the speaker’s presence, intervention, or effort.

Insights

Lack of Change or Influence

Expresses resignation or indifference, indicating that no effort has been made (or succeeded) to change, improve, or harm the person or situation.

Futility of Intervention

Highlights the idea that some people or situations cannot be improved, persuaded, or altered—no matter the time or energy invested.

Boundaries and Disengagement

May also signal the speaker’s decision to withdraw, cease involvement, or set boundaries with someone who resists change or help.

Resigned Wisdom

Historically and literarily, the proverb often appears as a parting shot, conveying both finality and a sense of wasted effort—whether in relationships, arguments, or failed attempts at reform.

Judgment and Labeling

Variants ('A fool I found thee, a fool I leave thee') show that the phrase is frequently used to label someone as unteachable or incorrigible—a judgment rendered by experience.

Ethical Reflection on Agency

The proverb implicitly recognizes personal autonomy and limits to influence: not everyone can or should be changed by external force.

Rhetorical Devices

Parallelism

Repetition of structure ('I found you... I leave you') enhances memorability and gives the proverb a balanced, rhetorical punch.

Antithesis

Contrasts the initial encounter with the final state, intensifying the sense of stasis or futility.

Ellipsis

Often omits details about what was hoped for or attempted, making the proverb adaptable to many contexts of disappointment or disengagement.

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Transcription

Quotations

A knaue I found the, a knaue I leauc the here.

1560, Nice Wanton, s. Biv

Here I founde you and here I leauc you both twaine.

1566-1567, UDALL, Roister D., I iii 80

A false knaue I found thee, a false knaue I leauc thee.

1571, R. EDWARDS, Damon and Pithias, s. G3
1578, LYLY, Euph. Anat. Wit, p. 194

Toxilus and his company .. left him as they found him.

1583, MELBANCKE, Philot., s. Dd4

(and here ile leauc you).

1605, K. Leir, s. G1

As I found you so I leauc you.

1611, Tarlton’s Fests in Shak. Ffest-Bks., II 195

As I found you I leauc you.

1630, DEKKER, 2 Hon. Whore, p. 146

In heartye good will, I leauc you as I found you.

1606, BRETON, Packet Letters, Wks., II 51

A fool I found thee and a fool I leauc thee.

1607, MARSTON, What You Will, V i 66

Fooles I found you, and so I must leauc you in spite of my hart.

1636, W. SAMPSON, Vow Breaker, I ii, p. 15

Shakespeare Citations

O my good lord, you were the first that found me. —Was I, in sooth? And I was the first that lost thee.

AWW, V.ii

Cross References

Original Scan

Here I FOUND you and here (As I found you) I leave you - a scanned entry from Tilley's 1950 Dictionary of Proverbs.
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