I had THOUGHT to have asked you

Meaning & Analysis

An ironic way of saying, “As if I were going to ask your permission,” used as a mocking comeback.

Insights

Mock deference

The speaker feigns respect—pretending they meant to seek leave—in order to puncture another’s pretensions to authority.

Assertion of autonomy

By ridiculing the idea of asking leave, the retort declares independence: one’s choices are not subject to the addressee’s approval.

Status reversal

The line flips hierarchy: the would-be superior is reduced to an object of jest, their power treated as imaginary.

Face-saving riposte

When challenged or scolded, sarcasm deflects shame; the speaker preserves ‘face’ by implying the rebuke is needless or officious.

Boundary policing

The comeback marks a limit—certain decisions lie outside the other’s remit—asserting personal or professional jurisdiction.

Archaic counterfactual

The Early Modern English frame “I had thought to have V-ed” signals an intention never realized. Here it is weaponized: the unrealized ‘asking’ underscores that permission was neither sought nor needed.

Shakespearean attestation

In *The Comedy of Errors* (“I thought to have ask’d you”), the phrase functions as a tart aside—performing the same social jab that later proverb collectors gloss as a ‘mocking retort.’

Politeness turned inside out

It’s mock-politeness: the surface of deference masks aggression. Pragmatically, it is an instance of ironic impoliteness that lets the speaker attack while pretending courtesy.

Everyday power play

Such quips flourish where minor authorities—busybody neighbors, petty officials—overreach; the proverb supplies a stock line for cutting them down to size.

Gender and class colorings

Historically, this sort of barbed civility negotiates rank; a servant, wife, or junior might use it sotto voce, signaling resistance while skirting open insubordination.

Rhetorical Devices

Irony

Says the opposite of the truth (pretended intent to ask) to convey scorn, making the sting land without explicit insult.

Counterfactual mood

The ‘had thought to have…’ form stages an unreal past plan, sharpening the sarcasm by showing how unnecessary the ‘asking’ was.

Ellipsis

The object (‘permission’) is omitted; listeners must supply it, which tightens the quip and increases its punch.

Deictic immediacy

Second-person address (‘you’) puts the addressee on the spot, making the retort a performative demotion of their status.

Aphoristic snap

Compact, idiomatic cadence makes it a ready-made comeback—memorable and easily redeployed.

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Analyzed with gpt-5.0-thinking on November 14, 2025

Transcription

Quotations

(to ask you).

1594, LYLY, Mother B., II iii 64
Ibid., IV ii 36

Shakespeare Citations

I thought to have ask'd you.

Err, III.i

Explanation

[A mocking retort.]

Original Scan

I had THOUGHT to have asked you - a scanned entry from Tilley's 1950 Dictionary of Proverbs.
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