As like as FOURPENCE to a groat¹

Meaning & Analysis

The proverb means two things are extremely alike—since a fourpence and a groat were both coins of identical value in early modern England, they are indistinguishable in practical terms.

Insights

Exact Likeness

Used to emphasize that two people, things, or situations are virtually identical, differing only (if at all) in superficial or insignificant ways.

Interchangeability

Suggests the interchangeability of items or people in everyday experience—if two things are 'as like as fourpence to a groat,' substituting one for the other makes no real difference.

Historical Symbolism

A fourpence and a groat were both coins worth four English pence. The phrase thus invokes the real-world context of currency, familiar to speakers in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, as a precise standard of likeness.

Literary and Cultural Resonance

Appears in drama and popular speech as a vivid, locally-rooted comparison, much as other cultures invoke 'two peas in a pod' or 'as like as two drops of water.' It signals the human penchant for finding memorable, everyday standards for sameness.

Psychological Dimensions

The proverb’s use underscores our need to draw distinctions, even where none exist, or to marvel at the rare occurrence of exact duplication.

Rhetorical Devices

Simile

The structure 'as like as' establishes a direct comparison between two things, reinforcing the sense of near-perfect similarity.

Colloquialism

Grounded in everyday objects (coins), the phrase is informal, accessible, and immediately clear to its intended audience.

Numerical Precision

By referencing specific coins with identical value, the proverb achieves both humor and precision, making the comparison both playful and exact.

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Transcription

Quotations

And in eueri thing as iust as iiii pens to a grot.

c1563, Jack Juggler, s. Eiv

(As the English say, As neer as).

1666, TOR., Prov. Phr., s.v. Soldi, p. 194
1670, RAY, p. 205

Annotations

  1. fourpence

Original Scan

As like as FOURPENCE to a groat¹ - a scanned entry from Tilley's 1950 Dictionary of Proverbs.
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