Better CHILDREN weep than old men

Meaning & Analysis

It is preferable for children to cry than for old men to cry.

Insights

The Necessity of Discipline

It is better for a child to suffer the temporary, corrective pain of discipline now than for a parent or elder to suffer the profound, lasting sorrow of that child's failure or misbehavior later in life.

Short-Term Pain for Long-Term Gain

This proverb advocates for enduring short-term, manageable pain (a child's tears) in order to prevent a much greater, irreversible tragedy in the future (an old man's grief over a ruined life).

The Nature of Sorrow

The proverb distinguishes between two types of grief: the transient, shallow sorrow of a child, and the deep, regret-filled sorrow of an elder. It argues for the prevention of the latter at the expense of the former.

Historical Parenting Philosophy

This proverb reflects a historical view of child-rearing, where discipline, even if it causes immediate distress to a child, is seen as a crucial parental duty to prevent future failure and the resulting, much deeper sorrow for the parents in their old age. The cross-reference to 'Spare the rod and spoil the child' confirms its place within a tradition valuing corrective suffering.

Social and Generational Hierarchy

The proverb reinforces a hierarchical worldview, prioritizing the wisdom and long-term emotional well-being of elders over the immediate feelings of the young. The 'old men' represent not just fathers but the established patriarchal order, whose stability is paramount.

Psychology of Parental Anxiety

Psychologically, the proverb addresses the profound parental fear of future regret. It frames the act of discipline not as cruelty, but as an investment in the parent's own future peace of mind, which is inextricably linked to the success and moral character of their children.

Rhetorical Devices

Antithesis

The proverb's power comes from the direct contrast between 'children' and 'old men', and their respective 'weeping', creating a stark and memorable choice between two types of suffering.

Symbolism

'Weeping' serves as a symbol for all forms of corrective suffering and immediate discomfort, while 'old men' symbolize the weight of experience, authority, and the irreversible consequences of time.

Parallelism

The simple, balanced grammatical structure ('Better X than Y') makes the statement concise, authoritative, and easy to remember, enhancing its proverbial quality.

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Transcription

Quotations

Better it is that children wepe then old men.

1541, COVERDALE, Chr. State Matr., XXI, f. 61
1546, HEY., I xi, s. D3v.

Better bairnes greit nor bairded men.

a.1598, FERG., MS, no. 255

Better young want than old.

1605, CHAPMAN, All Fools, I i 315
1611, GRUT., no. 54
1614, CAM., p. 304

(It is better that).

1616, DR., no. 257

(than old folke).

1639, CL., p. 281

(Better children cry).

1659, HOW., Eng. Prov., p. 6

[As in a1598 Ferg.].

1668, R.B., p. 12

Better Bairns greet as bearded Men.

1721, KEL., p. 62

Better you make your Children cry with seasonable Correction, than they make you cry by their after Miscarriage.

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Cross References

Original Scan

Better CHILDREN weep than old men - a scanned entry from Tilley's 1950 Dictionary of Proverbs.
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